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John Macioci   3 posts since
Sep 24, 2008
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Nov 12, 2008 8:25 PM

Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

I'd like to know how other businesses manage documents within or outside an enterprise social collaboration tool. This is an area we are struggling with and has already crippled performance on our enterprise portal and wiki environment. I don't want the same thing happening if we roll out a social collaboration solution. I also don't want this platform to be a dumping ground for documents. Iv'e heard others that accomplish this through policies and file size limitations. I would ultimately like to find a more elegant solution (e.g. one button publish from clearspace to a backend doc management tool).

 

Any comments ?

Tags: policy, management, document, files
Chuck Hollis   19 posts since
Apr 18, 2008
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Nov 13, 2008 4:37 AM in response to: John Macioci
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Our situation at EMC may be a bit unique.

 

First of all, Documentum (a top-shelf enterprise content management platform) is an EMC product.  Not surprisingly, we have a corporate deployment with all of our content in it.

 

As part of our social environment, we can expose enterprise content with links, etc.  What we really want to do is capture social interaction as content that can be corporately managed, something we can't do quite yet.

 

Stepping back a bit, I have come to the conclusion that having some sort of content/document management capability is an essential requirement to really push internal social media collaboration.  You've got to be able to expose corporate content in a meaningful and in-context way, and ideally capture wikis et. al. as corporate content.

 

Not a new topic in my discussions with my good friends at Jive.

Jon Mell   5 posts since
Jul 24, 2008
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Nov 13, 2008 11:28 AM in response to: Chuck Hollis
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

I have no answer to this, but I think that one of the overlooked aspects of Enterprise 2.0 / collaboration systems / whatever you want to call them is the problem of how you moved informal unstructured content into a formal document management system.

 

For example, a wiki can be a great way for people to collaborate and co-author / review a sales proposal. But at some point it needs to be put into a Word / Pages document and formatted. The final document then needs to be reviewed but as a document, not as a web page.

 

I haven't really seen anything that addresses this yet, unless someone can point me somewhere?

Rick Palmer JiveEmployees 31 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
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Nov 13, 2008 2:47 PM in response to: Jon Mell
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

What if it could be converted to PDF format? Would that help?

Jon Mell   5 posts since
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Nov 13, 2008 2:43 PM in response to: Rick Palmer
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

No - because it still needs to be edited / reviewed from a layout / formatting perspective.

Jarin   5 posts since
Aug 25, 2008
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Nov 13, 2008 4:20 PM in response to: John Macioci
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

I was tasked with soliving this issue at my organization, and to-date still have not found a good solution. Because quality documentation is produced in a highly collaborative environment, I have been experimenting with Clearspace. Unfortuantely, I have found a great deal of limitations when it comes to creating taxonomy and document standardization. I feel as though standardized documentation needs a great deal of structure to ensure consistency, searchability and re-usability... something that is very difficult to enforce in the midst of social media's "controlled chaos." Does anyone have any examples of taking collaboration to standardized documentation out in the wild?

Daniel Rae   13 posts since
Jul 31, 2008
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Nov 18, 2008 10:01 AM in response to: Jarin
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Hi,

 

Sounds to me like you're looking for a dedicated Quality Management System. There are many out there, but it's probably not appropriate to list them with links!

 

I work for a company that produces a QMS software solution that can be run as a desktop application or via your web browser and is used by many large organisations across the world.

 

Get in touch if you want to know more.

ken domen   2 posts since
Jan 15, 2009
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May 20, 2009 3:43 PM in response to: John Macioci
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Here at Nike, I've been on a project that uses Jive to expose Documentum.

Just like the EMC thread, we expose Dctm assets as links embedded in Jive's Documents, Discussions & Blogs.

 

I'm wondering what best practices are when it comes to this area.

We're thinking of going to 3.x since it has the ability to create new Document types

so in our case, we'd create a Dctm Document type.

Austen Rustrum   2 posts since
May 20, 2009
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May 20, 2009 4:29 PM in response to: ken domen
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Hi Ken,

 

It sounds like the Documentum integration would be a perfect fit for the new Content Type Framework in Jive SBS 3.0.  By creating a custom content type, you can easily hook in to search, tagging, bookmarking and more with very little development effort.

 

I recently blogged about my own experiences of using the framework to implement a new environment tracking feature in our customer support portal.  Using this framework reduced my development time from several months down to a few weeks AND it was all done inside of a plugin--no messing with the core code.  Check out the links at the end of my blog post for a sample custom content type that can get you started and feel free to ping me if you have any questions!

 

Cheers,

Austen

ken domen   2 posts since
Jan 15, 2009
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May 20, 2009 4:33 PM in response to: Austen Rustrum
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Perfect!  I'll check it out and comment.

 

ken

 

 

On 5/20/09 9:29 AM, "austen.rustrum" <clearstep-community@jivesoftware.com

Ted Hopton   47 posts since
Jan 30, 2009
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May 21, 2009 9:55 PM in response to: Austen Rustrum
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Austen,

 

Would we be able to do this for Lotus Notes databases?

Austen Rustrum   2 posts since
May 20, 2009
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May 21, 2009 10:16 PM in response to: Ted Hopton
Re: Document Management - What to you do? (or think)

Hi Ted,

 

Provided there is some sort of services API to access the information you want to pull into SBS (there should be), it is definitely a possibility!

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