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    <title>Blog Posts From Jive Talks Tagged With google</title>
    <link>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog</link>
    <description>Updates and insights from Jive Software's management team</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:11:45 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2008-01-11T16:11:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Jive code to be in millions of phones</title>
      <link>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2008/01/16/jive-code-to-be-in-millions-of-phones</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:98313fa6-3745-4cb7-b9f1-b12a7c346353] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="image-right"&gt; 
&lt;a href="http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/servlet/JiveServlet/download/1363-3327/180px-Android-logo.png"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/servlet/JiveServlet/download/1363-3327/180px-Android-logo.png"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
 &lt;/span&gt;Recently Gato, the lead engineer for Jive's Real Time team, came across &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://davanum.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/android-just-use-smack-api-for-xmpp/"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; from Davanum Srinivas that talks about how to use the Smack XMPP library built into Android. Smack's inclusion in Android was news to us, but we're honored that our work will be included in one of the most anticipated technology releases in the mobile world since the iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In case you haven't heard of either Android or Smack, &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://code.google.com/android/"&gt;Android&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.google.com/"&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/"&gt;Open Handset Alliance's&lt;/a&gt; project to create "the first complete, open, and free mobile platform." &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/smack/index.jsp"&gt;Smack&lt;/a&gt; is our open source &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Messaging_and_Presence_Protocol"&gt;XMPP&lt;/a&gt; library for instant messaging and presence implemented in Java.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We're pretty excited that Smack will be used on millions of phones around the world. Thanks, Android, for picking Smack!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:98313fa6-3745-4cb7-b9f1-b12a7c346353] --&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:16:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>greg@jivesoftware.com</author>
      <guid>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2008/01/16/jive-code-to-be-in-millions-of-phones</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-01-16T16:16:32Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 10 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>What does Google and Facebook's validation of DataPortability mean for the Enterprise?</title>
      <link>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2008/01/08/what-does-google-and-facebooks-validation-of-dataportability-mean-for-the-enterprise</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cfdea311-dd69-42d5-8dc9-fe28b6246278] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now that &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/goog-fb-data.php"&gt;Google and Facebook have validated the importance of DataPortability,&lt;/a&gt; it's important to think about the ramifications on how these standards translate to the enterprise. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We've been focused on standards for years, so this is very exciting news for us. Google and Facebook's support of DataPortability will put tremendous pressure on both consumer and enterprise social software. If you're a vendor in this space, you'll need to support these standards. I imagine there may even be some companies that will need to, unfortunately, re-examine and/or rebuild their product architectures. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the meantime, data standards in the enterprise are less clear.&amp;nbsp; Google Docs currently uses &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAML"&gt;SAML.&lt;/a&gt; Will they now move to OpenID and OAuth? As people like Google push to the enterprise, it will be critical to put real standards in place. The problem with &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openid"&gt;OpenID,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://oauth.net/"&gt;OAuth,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://microformats.org/"&gt;Microformats,&lt;/a&gt; RSS, Atom, etc is that there's not the same standards body in place like we see in our participation with the &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.xmpp.org/"&gt;XMPP Foundation.&lt;/a&gt; As much as tbe blogosphere loves to talk about things like OpenID, etc, they need a true standards body, process, and protocol around them for there to be any enterprise traction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We've committed to clear standards, like XMPP. We've even seen Google, IBM and Yahoo engage with our code. We will commit to new standards as they clarify and given the gravity of Google and Facebook, DataPortability should be one of them. Bottomline: we'll charge ahead on the standards that have the biggest impact to delivering social productivity in the enterprise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cfdea311-dd69-42d5-8dc9-fe28b6246278] --&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>communities@jivesoftware.com</author>
      <guid>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2008/01/08/what-does-google-and-facebooks-validation-of-dataportability-mean-for-the-enterprise</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-01-08T19:00:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Help, I can't stop staring at this graph</title>
      <link>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2008/01/02/help-i-cant-stop-staring-at-this-graph</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:527ea356-2977-4cf8-a226-a53455461cd2] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm sorry, but does anyone else think this graph is nuts? I'm hypnotized by it. It would be interesting to overlay another graph for the same period that showed how many companies were betting on Microsoft for planned enterprise IT investments. Wonder what that would look like. Up? Down? That said, if John Battelle's &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004172.php"&gt;2008 predictions come true,&lt;/a&gt; perhaps this chart is very different for both companies next year. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jivesoftware.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/1177/190-google-graph1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.jivesoftware.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/1177/190-google-graph1.jpg"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:527ea356-2977-4cf8-a226-a53455461cd2] --&gt;</description>
      <category domain="http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/tags">microsoft</category>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:39:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>communities@jivesoftware.com</author>
      <guid>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2008/01/02/help-i-cant-stop-staring-at-this-graph</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-01-02T14:39:07Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 10 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Expectations for 2008</title>
      <link>http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/jivetalks/blog/2007/12/28/expectations-for-2008</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:26f86275-e69a-47be-85ae-dc074bed2479] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;Big 2.0 shakeouts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li level="1" type="ul"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether or not a "S&amp;amp;L part deux" recession occurs, Web 2.0 startups will be forced to become responsible. That means they'll need to focus on profitability or close shop. More of them will address industry verticals to help gain traction.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;"Social Productivity" stampede begins: Utility and social applications converge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li level="1" type="ul"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Google is the most visible company who could connect the dots to unify utility with social applications. Rumor is they'll do this under the umbrella of " &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=829"&gt;Google Sites&lt;/a&gt;" which is meant to:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p&gt;allow business to set up intranets, project management tracking, customer extranets, and any number of custom sites based on multi-user collaboration.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;This will be fantastic for the 2.0 market overall by providing a clear, disruptive "sum of its parts" vision for companies. It will also clear space for other &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howlett/wp-trackback.php?p=268"&gt;collaboration-centric companies focused on enterprise 2.0 to compete.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Look at what Google has staked so far:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;p&gt;Utility&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;p&gt;Social&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://docs.google.com"&gt;Docs, spreadsheets, presentations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/"&gt;OpenSocial (unifies information across social networks)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://google.com/calendar"&gt;Calendaring&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.orkut.com/Home.aspx"&gt;Orkut (Social Network)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://mail.google.com"&gt;Email&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.yoursearchadvisor.com/blog/google-apps-presentation-ann-arbor"&gt;Sites (Intranet/Extranet Product)&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;--All Google's pieces organized by this&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.google.com/talk/"&gt;Instant messaging&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://http://www.grandcentral.com/"&gt;VOIP and call management (Grand Central)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://code.google.com/android"&gt;Mobile platform (Android)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html"&gt;Knol (wikipedia competitor)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://gears.google.com/"&gt;Gears (offline mode)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;Attention! (Next year's buzz.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li level="1" type="ul"&gt;&lt;p&gt;While this year buzz was Social Networking next year should be "Attention Streaming." Given how many social applications and connections we have, &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/attention_economy_overview.php"&gt;it will be important&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/newsgator_apml.php"&gt;easily keep track&lt;/a&gt; of activity, content, and people (signal vs noise). This will be particularly in demand for companies embracing Enterprise 2.0. There are a couple of approaches to this. "Groupthink," which is a top-down approach where attention focus is determined by activity of the masses. "User Activity" is a bottoms-up approach to taming the data firehose. Right now it seems these are addressed as one route or the other and no one has combined both. There's already some &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://apml.org/"&gt;interesting standards&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/newsgator_apml.php"&gt;traction&lt;/a&gt; beginning. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;IT big guys buy some 2.0 souvenirs &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li level="1" type="ul"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Though for the most part it will be more wait-and-see from the Big Guys, my bet is there will be at least one minor acquisition, potentially one of the many me-too Office-style applications or maybe an enterprise wiki. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;Content management will specialize&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li level="1" type="ul"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Content continues to change and so does the role of Content Management Systems. As more content lives outside those systems and inside social productivity applications, I imagine that the way we'll need to control content will change, too. CMS will hone in on the types of content that makes sense in this paradigm, some will zero-in on heavy file-centric, structured industries. It will be interesting to see how this part of the market evolves. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;Media properties will begin to focus on Enterprise 2.0 software&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li level="1" type="ul"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given the above predictions, media folks will take advantage of all the interest around Enterprise 2.0 and begin to dedicate some brand new media properties to it. For now, Web 2.0 (consumer) and Enterprise 2.0 (business) have been mashed together and covered in the same industry rags like &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.techcrunch.com"&gt;Techcrunch&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com"&gt;Read/Write Web&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://wwwgigaom.com"&gt;GigaOM&lt;/a&gt;. My sense is that there's now enough independent gravity between Web 2.0 and Enterprise 2.0 to justify targeted readership, editorial and (yes) advertising dollars.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:26f86275-e69a-47be-85ae-dc074bed2479] --&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:02:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2007-12-28T05:02:37Z</dc:date>
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