Hi,
we have filed many bugs since we are using Clearspace. With the introduction of Jivespace / Supportal our Jira access got barred and we started using threads for handling issues. To get information about the status of a bug we had to ask the supporter and the thread was update. Now we have the "Case Product Issues" wigdet on the right side as a peephole into Jira. But it is somehow broken. All our cases are reported for our current version, but the widget often does not reflect this. When we request the supporter to add our version, we get a reply that it has been done. But it does not show up. Please fix the "Case Product Issues" widget.
Nils
Hey Nils,
Fist off, thanks for actually creating a case for this -- I don't think it has been done yet. We are aware of this issue and we're in the process of fixing it.
I would expect to see this fixed when we upgrade the Supportal to 4.0; however, I'm not sure when that will be -- likely next month some time.
Cheers,
Brad
Great!
Fist off, thanks for actually creating a case for this -- I don't think it has been done yet. We are aware of this issue and we're in the process of fixing it.
Yes, I always try to find an issue before I open a new one. In this case I have not been successful.
Hey guys,
This is actually functioning as designed; since we are not receiving updates from JIRA directly, we are caching the values for 1 hour and updating them on the next request.
Cheers,
Hi Will,
Will wrote:
Hey guys,
This is actually functioning as designed; since we are not receiving updates from JIRA directly, we are caching the values for 1 hour and updating them on the next request.
there seems to be a problem with getting the info from JIRA then. In this case:
http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/message/297338
the widget is not up to date.
best regards,
Nils
Hey Nils,
It looks up to date to me -- the bug was previously closed, I re-opened it in JIRA, and it re-opened in the widget. Regarding the 2.5.18(QA) discrepancy that you mention on the other thread, it looks like our JIRA instance hasn't yet been updated to reflect the latest release so the widget is indeed in sync with JIRA
.
- Brad
Sorry for that.
This whole process of handling and giving out information about the status of cases to the customers is pretty confusing.
We have complained about this since our access to your JIRA has been changed for this platform. It is not really possible to track a larger number of open cases. Having the "Case Product Issues" widget sounded like a improvement, but information like this one
is not helpful, but confusing. Has this issue been fixed? Which versions are affected? What does (QA) mean, especially when 2.5.18 is already available?
This complaint is not about the fixing errors. It is about communication to the customer.
Hi Nils,
I appreciate the feedback here! As this tool is used to simply show the information that is currently set in our internal bug tracker, we are at the mercy of the information there. When the affects version states "2.5.14" it may likely also occur in versions before 2.5.14, and probably a few after until the fix version. The reason it was marked as 2.5.14 was that was likely the version that it was reproduced in, and the other versions were simply not tested.
We are continually looking to improve how we show this information to you (our customers) and with our first release of this integration, we can agree that there are improvements to be made.
Thanks!
Hi Will,
Thanks for the feedback.
I understand affected versions better, now.
The more important part of our side of bugtracking is fixed versions,
though. How do they reflect the internal bug tracker? We have have an
reopened case (CS-9629 reopened after 2.5.18) which says it was fixed in
(2.5.15). What does this tell us?
Sorry, for being pedantic, but we also have to provide a release plan to our
customers/users. I want to find out what information we can use in which
way.
Best regards,
Nils
Hi Nils,
The fix versions are the actual versions that have checkins for the fix, and do not reflect the versions which come out after (ie. if fixed version is 2.5.15, and you're on 2.5.18, assume that the fix is in there).
When an issue is re-opened, it should get its 'fixed versions' updated, and after it moves out of the cache, the new fix versions will be updated in the issues widget.
Given our current issue tracking ability (the view on the side of a case, and the product issues tab), what would you like to see improved about either? What would help you out?
We already plan to 'listen' to bug events so that when the issue is closed, we'll be posting a new message in all cases which have that issue linked.
Thanks!
Hi Will,
When an issue is re-opened, it should get its 'fixed versions' updated, and
after it moves out of the cache, the new fix versions will be updated in the
issues widget.
This is what I expected, but it does not happen. At least not for the
mentioned case (CS-9629
http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/message/159785).
It says:
Reopened
Affected Versions: 2.5.3
Fixed Versions: 2.5.13
We reported back, that is has not been fixed, which was accepted. But the
widget does not reflect this at this time. Since we live in different time
zones most of the updates are older than an hour when we look at them.
If you take a deeper look at that ticket, you will also see that most of the
time your and our side was spend on other things than reporting a bug.
what would you like to see improved about either?
What would help you out?
The "Case Product Issue" widget would give us some information on the
current state of bugs. But it does not seem to update right. Or the JIRA
backend is not updated correctly?
We/I have said this very often in the past. We'd love to have JIRA access
like it was when we started with Jivesoftware. For us everything got worse
when the Supportal/Jivespace was introduced. Time spend on asking for status
costs lots of valuable time (on both sides!). Since the start there has only
been one improvement that I can remember. It is the widget, which does not
work in most cases. Jivespace surely is a good solution and an improvement
for many customers. For us as stated before a more direct interaction would
be better.
Another thing would also be great an overview about all issues reported by a
customer and there current (cached) status. We have an extra document which
we have to update manually to get this overview. I had talked to Greg Unrein
about that in the path already.
We already plan to 'listen' to bug events so that when the issue is closed,
we'll be posting a new message in all cases which have that issue linked.
This sounds like a great enhancement.
Best regards,
Nils
Hi,
there is another widget which does not reflect what it should.
Case: http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/message/301404#301404
In the case, it is clearly stated that it will be fixed with 2.5.19 and that it is a bug. I asked Brad to make widget represent this, which he did. But the widget is still 'old'.
When will we see an improvement in the issue tracking process?
best regards,
Nils
Thanks for the continued help on this one Nils, I've found that one of the caches we're using isn't expiring properly, and if I clear it from the admin console, then it works correctly. I have logged an additional bug for this
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